mikemax04 wrote:
Mike, the reason why I mentioned Vrod Destroyer is because it's the only "cruiser" that competes with the Vmax...although I guess the new Screamin Eagle Vrod's are getting better. With riders being equal they would give a V1 Max a run.

Mark
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As they should by now, given Mr. Max v1's (God bless him) is over two decades old. Btw, I would love to know how Max v2's handling compares with an old Max but with 17" radials and some suspension bits.

My last vmax, though certainly not flickable, was very satisfying in the twisties.

If V1 had Racetech setup, Works shocks, radials, and GSXR Tokico calipers those components would match up to V2. Where the V2 would lose the V1 is the frame and swingarm...even with solid mounts, frame braces and bracing of swingarm.

Mark
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Doubt whether the V1 would stop as well. Those 320mm discs are HUGE! Add ABS and suspension travel of almost 5", means much better handling (along with the more ridgid frame setup). The new Vmax is def. in a class of its own..

It needs huge rotors and 6 pots as it's a porker! I've ridden a Max with R1 brakes, masters and rotors and it stops right now! It was just as good as the Speed Triple I test road.

Stock v. stock, Yamaha went in the right direction....better wheels, brakes, forks, chassis, etc. Only complaint I'm hearing is the weight. I wonder why they chose such a huge V4 powerplant? Oh well, I'm sure the math is WAY beyond me. A friend's 1428 cc Vmax makes the same horsepower as V2 although torque is 5-10 ft lbs less. I think that's why Wildbros says that the V2 engine has HUGE potential. Yami had to consider the insurane companies. lol

Mark
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maleko89 wrote:
I am sure there is tons of potential in this engine as you say. I am pretty sure the 1400&1500cc V1 Max are tuned to the max and not built for reliability. The New VMax has to be super reliable and valve intervals are the same as with any other Yamaha/Star, plus they have to hit emissions and noise, the hotrod engine don't do that.

I agree that the 1500 or 1500 longrod aren't built for reliability. But that 1428 will last as stock does. It's all in the tune. IMHO.

Mark
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There is no comparison between V1 and V2 in handling. Completely redesigned motorcycle.

ralleyone wrote:

Sorry Mark, I disagree. The whole frame setup on the old is unstable. There are bolted together removable members, also a flexible frame with little rigidity and perhaps the most important problem is the spacing of the head bearings. On the old, you have a short spacing and the same length of unsupported tubes.

On the new, the spacing is greater and almost no excess tube except what's needed for spring travel. Also the new tubes are way beefier than the old. Yamaha has put a lot of thought and money into these forks for a reason when they just as well could have taken USD forks from one of their other cruisers. I think we will all be surprised of how well it handles for a 670 lbs bike, which is only 50 lbs heavier than the old. On mine, an extra 50 lbs makes no difference in acceleration, not that you can tell anyway. Just my $.02 worth.


maleko89 wrote:

mikemax04 wrote:
Mike, I messed up my words. I meant V2 would lose as in accelerate away, no comparison since the frame, swing arm, etc are a lot worse than V2. Sorry!

Mark
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