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TOPIC: Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brung
Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #21
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Steddy wrote:
If we would had put Victor on it at the beginning of the night while the track will still good and the air was dry, I fully believe he would have just...... gotten in the 9's. Limiter was not the issue. Getting the bike moving was the problem. A 1.7 60' on a 66" wheelbase bike is really slow. Just a whole lot of weight to try and get moving. Lee mentioned something about the "fly by wire" throttle perhaps having a less-than-positive effect. I am starting to think there may be more to this than the weight... My 14 was about 525 lbs, and me about 230 lbs. suited when it went a 1.49 60 ft, at 64". And I am not a fast guy. Lee on the Max is about 100 lbs. more....that should, in itself, not make .2 difference in 60 ft. The bike has pretty low gearing, more power, and is longer than the 14... Let me put it this way...dropping 100 lbs. off of the bike would put it at where I was, weight-wise with the 14. And at that length and weight it should be able to go high 1.3's...over .3 quicker in the 60 foot. There has to be something more to it than the weight. Shane |
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #22
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Tadster wrote:
Steddy wrote: If we would had put Victor on it at the beginning of the night while the track will still good and the air was dry, I fully believe he would have just...... gotten in the 9's. Limiter was not the issue. Getting the bike moving was the problem. A 1.7 60' on a 66" wheelbase bike is really slow. Just a whole lot of weight to try and get moving. Was there any wheel spin issues? Tadster Of course, especially at the end of the night. I felt 2nd gear blow off the tire (spinning), and that caused me to hit the limiter before the traps. Max nosed over at the end of the 1/4 mile and posted 129 mph |
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If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... Get your V-Max ECU Re-Flashed to Full Power!
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #23
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Warp12 wrote:
Steddy wrote: If we would had put Victor on it at the beginning of the night while the track will still good and the air was dry, I fully believe he would have just...... gotten in the 9's. Limiter was not the issue. Getting the bike moving was the problem. A 1.7 60' on a 66" wheelbase bike is really slow. Just a whole lot of weight to try and get moving. Lee mentioned something about the "fly by wire" throttle perhaps having a less-than-positive effect. I am starting to think there may be more to this than the weight... My 14 was about 525 lbs, and me about 230 lbs. suited when it went a 1.49 60 ft, at 64". And I am not a fast guy. Lee on the Max is about 100 lbs. more....that should, in itself, not make .2 difference in 60 ft. The bike has pretty low gearing, more power, and is longer than the 14... Let me put it this way...dropping 100 lbs. off of the bike would put it at where I was, weight-wise with the 14. And at that length and weight it should be able to go high 1.3's...over .3 quicker in the 60 foot. There has to be something more to it than the weight. Shane The YCCT is the culprit, but it's also what makes Max so consistent. Room for improvement for sure
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #24
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Bad_Max wrote:
Of course, especially at the end of the night. I felt 2nd gear blow off the tire, and that caused me to hit the limiter before the traps. Max nosed over at the end of the 1/4 mile and posted 129 mph Yamaha seems to have used a tire for street use. If they had not, we as owners would be a bit P O'd to have to replace a rear tire before the first 1000 miles. These are my assumptions based off of real quater mile times with vastly different rider weights. I guess the BUSA guy must have had to pick up his jaw when he saw the VMAX's tail lights going down the track - playing catch up for once must have really been shocking to a lot of the riders........ Cheers, Tadster |
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #25
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Tadster wrote:
Bad_Max wrote: I only state this due to another VMAX forum rider weighing ~270 lb's suited ran a near 10 flat as well. No other stock ride out there can do that. I believe his heavier weight allowed better launch traction through second gear. I'm very interested to know how he went faster than a 135 lb. national champion dragracer. There has to be something to it...technique, mods?? Wheelspin on the launch was not reported to be an issue last night... |
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #26
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I think he has the race ECU. The thing does nose over just before or right at the traps
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #27
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Warp12 wrote:
Tadster wrote: Bad_Max wrote: I only state this due to another VMAX forum rider weighing ~270 lb's suited ran a near 10 flat as well. No other stock ride out there can do that. I believe his heavier weight allowed better launch traction through second gear. I'm very interested to know how he went faster than a 135 lb. national champion dragracer. There has to be something to it...technique, mods?? Wheelspin on the launch was not reported to be an issue last night... I would like to know as well. All I have heard from almost everyone who is a light rider, is wheel spin issues up and into the beginning of 3rd gear. |
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Last Edit: 4 years 1 month ago by Tadster.
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #28
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Bad_Max wrote:
I think he has the race ECU. The thing does nose over just before or right at the traps Well, the 1/8th mile was about the same as Lee's. So apparently, BCDD was able to violate the laws of physics. It has pretty much been established that 35 lbs. will cost you .10 in the 1/4. So, by all rights, if BCDD can ride as well as Lee he should be .35 slower...not .10 quicker. Anyway, just trying to separate reality and fantasy. BCDD can chime in and clear things up...I'm sure there are some more mods beside the ecu to the bike...after all, the ECU should only affect things in the mph area, right? Most of the ET is determined early in the run...tagging the limiter at the very end will not hurt your ET that much. Shane |
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #29
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I don't know, but your above quoted posts are all screwed up and looks like I'm saying things I never did.
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Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... Get your V-Max ECU Re-Flashed to Full Power!
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Re:Bradenton Drags, Test & Tune, Run what you brun 4 years 1 month ago #30
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There, fixxed...
Warp12 wrote: Tadster wrote: I only state this due to another VMAX forum rider weighing ~270 lb's suited ran a near 10 flat as well. No other stock ride out there can do that. I believe his heavier weight allowed better launch traction through second gear. I'm very interested to know how he went faster than a 135 lb. national champion dragracer. There has to be something to it...technique, mods?? Wheelspin on the launch was not reported to be an issue last night... |
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Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... Get your V-Max ECU Re-Flashed to Full Power!
Last Edit: 4 years 1 month ago by Bad_Max.
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